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Comments from around the world, of how people think the UK's Foot and Mouth epidemic will affect crop circle research during 2001.
By David Haith | 6th Apr 2001

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CROP CIRCLES AND FOOT AND MOUTH DISEASE - YOUR VIEWS
 

Harvest - Vincent Van Gogh, 1888
 
"How perfect it would be if this year, when researchers and hoaxers alike can't get in the fields, the phenomenon puts on a dazzling show to at last reveal itself beyond question, to the world. I get shivers thinking about this."
Quote from American crop circle researcher Suzanne Taylor
 
Hi everybody!
I circulated the letter below with some questions to try to get some idea of what researchers think will happen in the crop circle fields of Britain this year now we have the widespread foot and mouth disease outbreak.
Below the letter are the replies I received plus a few added comments from the researchers and observers.
I have tried - so far without response - to elicit some answers from the hoaxers.
There were a few researchers who would have liked to take part but are away. I may forward their responses separately.
I have not attempted to draw any conclusions from this small (23) sampling of varied views.
I will send the results to all the participants, a few people on my own contact list and four mail groups I'm a member of - UFOnet, UFOTruth, Illusions, NHNE Forum and ForteanUFO.
Anyone is free to further circulate this survey elsewhere if they wish.
 
Regards
Dave Haith
visions@ntlworld.com
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Dear Crop Circle Researcher
With foot and mouth disease spiralling out of control in the UK now with a BBC news bulletin today saying it 'could get ten times worse' with 70 new outbreaks a day, it looks as if the disease will still be raging during some, if not all, of the crop circle season.
 
I would like to put out a piece on the net giving the opinions of the major researchers in this area as to what effect the severe restrictions on movement in the countryside, will have on the phenomena this year. So I am asking if you can spare a moment or two to return this email with your comments, feelings or fears so that I may return the complete compilation of opinions to each of you (I am currently sending this email to 20 or so researchers I know) and also circulate them on the web.
 
I would, of course, like to use your names alongside your opinions but no email addresses will be given (unless requested).
 
If you would like to circulate this email to other researchers you know, please feel free.
 
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DAVID KINGSTON
http://thecropcirclewebsite.50megs.com
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)

Yes

2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
I thought this at first but it would not surprise me at all if there were still some man-made formations. I do not feel that the fines will effect those hoaxers that still really wish to prove their point. The "genuine" formations will still appear as they have done in all the years that I have been researching (1976). It will be interesting to see what shapes appear in one area of my research, "Project X", (it is a project that incorporates certain researchers from different countries and a University department of Parapsychology) which has been in operation the last five years.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Yes, to a certain extent.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
I personally feel that this is a presumptuous area unless one has 100% scientific proof to decide beyond a shadow of doubt the difference between man-made and the genuine phenomena, a litmus test if you like.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It will help a little.
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
I would sincerely hope so although this disease even effects the movements of the pilots.
 
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COLIN ANDREWS

1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
YES. I THINK IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO DO SO. IF EXCEPTIONAL CROP CIRCLE EVENTS OCCUR, I WILL ASK THE PERMISSION OF THE FARMER OR APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES IF ACCESS CAN BE GAINED. OUTSIDE OF THESE EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES, ALL MY GROUND RESEARCH WILL BE CANCELLED.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
YES. THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO ASSUME THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A VERY REVEALING YEAR IN THIS RESPECT.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
WELL, LIKE ANY HUMAN ACTIVITY, MUCH IS DECEPTIVE AND COMPLEX. ONE WOULD STILL APPROACH EACH REPORT AS POTENTIALLY HUMAN IN NATURE, BUT THE CHANCES OF IT BEING SO ARE REDUCED FOR THE REASONS YOU CORRECTLY STATE.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
I AM THAT RESEARCHER, BUT I WOULD ADD THAT THE FINAL OUTCOME COULD BE WORSE THAN 80%. WE SHOULD NOT DOUBT THAT THERE IS A VERY LARGE MAN MADE ELEMENT INVOLVED AND THIS UNFORESEEN SITUATION MIGHT GO A LONG WAY TO CONFIRMING IT - REGRETTABLY.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?

IT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO REVEALING HUMAN NATURE IS THE WAY I WOULD PUT IT. IF PEOPLE CONTINUE TO MAKE CROP CIRCLES AND PUT THE SUFFERING FARMERS AND ANIMALS IN FURTHER JEOPARDY, IT WILL SHOW THE FOOLHARDY NATURE OF THOSE INVOLVED. IF THERE IS AT LEAST AN 80% REDUCTION OF REPORTS, IT WILL SHOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CIRCLEMAKERS STAY AT HOME. WHICH EVER WAY THIS GOES, OUT OF A DESPERATELY SAD AND I THINK UNNECESSARY CASE OF MASS ANIMAL SLAUGHTER, WE WILL LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT MY RECENT CONCLUSIONS AND MAN MADE CROP CIRCLES. IF THEY APPEAR UNABATED AND WITHOUT SERIOUS COURT ACTIONS, I DON'T MEAN 100 FINES BUT SEVERAL THOUSANDS, THEN I THINK WE MIGHT ENTER A NEW PHASE IN THE MYSTERY.
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO SO IF I AM INVOLVED IN AERIAL WORK. I AM AWAITING FINAL DECISIONS TO SEE IF THIS WILL GO AHEAD WITHOUT THE GROUND WORK, WHICH HAS BEEN CANCELLED. SOMEHOW THIS MONITORING MUST BE DONE.
 
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ANDY THOMAS - SOUTHERN CIRCULAR RESEARCH
 
The current Foot and Mouth hysteria will provide a curious year for crop circle studies and almost certainly curtail the activities of circle researchers this year to some extent, at least. How much remains to be seen, but some farmers we are hearing from suggest there could be a total access ban to the fields, and if so we will have to respect it - providing an enforced summer holiday for some perhaps! Circle tourists from overseas could be down in number, too.
 
The more conspiratorial among the croppie community believe Foot and Mouth could be used as an excuse to keep us at bay for years to come, never mind one, but that's possibly an overreaction. Then again, the whole crisis is held to be an overreaction by some who believe that the very reliability of diagnosis and the understanding of the infection is muddled at least (which it appears to be), and that F&M; is being actively hyped to forward some dark hidden agenda at worst.
 
As to how many formations will appear, well, that also remains to be seen. True positivists should expect little reduction, while sceptics will undoubtedly rub their hands with glee at the prospect of a quiet year. It could be argued that those who allegedly flout the law to create man-made formations wouldn't be too put off by the added excitement of a potential 5000 fine anyway, of course. Pontificating on hoax percentages is a pointless and purely subjective exercise, as the extremely cool reaction to Colin Andrews's 80%-hoax pronouncement last year proved. The only true criteria is hard evidence, not guesswork gleaned from examining aerial photos or listening to rumour and innuendo from known unreliables.
 
And with a restricted movement on the ground, there will doubtless be an even more intensive scrutiny of aerial photos this year... so we can expect an increase in shoddy research conducted by armchair cerealogists in the absence of real evidence if nothing else!
 
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PETER SORENSEN
 
The situation is VERY serious. I would recommend to all but the most experienced researchers that they save their money and go to England NEXT summer.
 
Cold weather has set back the crops at least a month, so I have postponed my trip there until mid-May, aiming to see the first formations. (This will be my 10th summer documenting the phenomenon, by the way!) I will be posting aerial images ASAP on my home page:
http://cropcircleconnector.com/Sorensen/PeterSorensen99.html
 
Obviously the hoaxers will be relatively inactive due to the 5,000 fine for unauthorized entry in quarantined areas (and all farms with livestock could become off limits if F&M; isn't under control soon). BUT the land artists know that we will be thinking this, and they will see it as a tantalizing opportunity -- I definitely expect to find human made circles.
 
It's going to be a very strange season.
 
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SHERRY STULTZ
NHNE INTERNET MAIL GROUP www.hhne.com/specialreports/srcropcircles/index.html
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
No. We aren't coming back until Astra (new baby-DH) gets bigger...
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
I think it will be more incentive for the circle makers. They love danger.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
I would still look to simple circles this year.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
More than 80. Colin was being generous. Perhaps the circles were seasonal anyway, coming in cycles with sunspot activity... so some years nothing was a phenomenon and other years there were more candidates for a genuine phenomenon.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It will be interesting.
 
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ILYES
National Co-ordinator CropCircle Research International
 
There ARE no 'hoaxers' -- there's MW and his mentor-group, and a couple of very young, immature, and insecure young men who lie about having 'made' this or that Pattern, AND THAT's all!
 
The biggest HOAX is the propagation of the All-Circles-are-hoaxed theory itself. IMO, you do a disservice to the Potentials of faster frequency by focusing on 'hoaxed' Circles and those who CLAIM to make them. Remember, there is NO PROOF AT ALL that ANYONE ever made a Pattern ... we each choose to believe what's comfortable for us ...
 
I don't waste my energies considering the IMO non-existent man-made Circles -- (oh, as I said, each year there's ONE, maybe two) ... I've explored up-close-and-personal over a hundred Circles on two continents over the last eight years and have come to learn/KNOW what I'm seeing .... There are hallmarks which ANYONE with an open mind who visits a few Formations can discern, and these can teach themselves to REGULARLY recognize the lay anomalies which disclose the Formation's 'Maker' -- as in CircleMaker, for 99.9% of them ARE Transmissions.
 
I invite you to peruse my Monograph and consider what I've learned in re: how the Formations are being Transmitted -- the URL's in my sig file.
"The Transmission of a CropCircle"
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/ilyes/ilyes.html
 
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LUCY PRINGLE
http://home.clara.net/lucypringle
 
How long will the Foot and Mouth epidemic last? As yet its duration is unknown, the situation seems to be changing daily; therefore without wishing to be unhelpful, I would rather not speculate, and do not feel I can offer any prognosis about this forthcoming crop circle season. However I will try and answer your questions as best I can bearing this in mind.
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
Yes, it will certainly prevent me from walking or driving into areas which are closed off. I believe it would be grossly insensitive to do so. However it will not prevent me from viewing from the tarmacced roads.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
If you are happy to consider that there is an intelligence behind this phenomenon, I feel it is absolutely possible that `genuine` formations may appear. But as we cannot instruct/direct this intelligence, this decision is clearly up to the intelligence involved!
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
I would tend to think that this would indeed be the case as I do not believe hoaxers would risk a possible fine of up to 5000, nor the wrath of the landowners. Indeed if they did violate this ban, I would expect they would incur an additional fine for criminal damage. The hoaxers are not stupid and I am sure they realise that feelings are running very high in the countryside and that in areas that are clean, farmers/landowners are desperately anxious to keep them thus and would not take kindly to anyone flouting this ban.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
As I have not conducted scientific tests on 100% of the formations; indeed due to lack of funding it has allowed me to conduct tests on a relatively small number only, I therefore cannot give you a definitive answer and once more am not happy to speculate.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It is quite possible.
 
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STEVE JONES,
LEEDS, UK
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
The outbreak will not stop me from visiting Wiltshire this summer. If the official view at the time is that people shouldn't walk into fields then I will not.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Yes, I think genuine circles undoubtably will still appear.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
I don't think that they will have any more validity because of the crisis and potential heavy fines for hoaxers.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
I think hoaxes may account for about half of all crop circles, but probably less.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
No
 
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PAUL VIGAY
(owner of this web site!)

1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
It won't stop me personally, as I'm sure there is more to the epidemic than the government are letting on. I'm currently investigating the whole thing and I must say that I've overturned some stones that don't indicate that it is a 'normal' or natural outbreak. I suspect foul play by the government or MOD somewhere along the lines. A full report will eventually appear at http://www.truefacts.co.uk which is my sister web site to www.cropcircleresearch.com
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
I have no doubt that both genuine formations AND hoaxed formations will continue as normal. Indeed, I suspect hoaxers will make an even bigger effort to get out and make some, for the mere reason of your email - that they think researchers will assume that because of F&M; that they are not hoaxing - thereby somehow increasing the probability that their creations are diagnosed genuine.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Not necessarily. I will be researching all crop circles with the same criteria that I've always researched them. Indeed, I may well be even more critical because of the reason above.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
I'm actually in the process of writing a response to Colin's statement. However, for the time specified in Colin's report - 1999 and 2000 I do tend to agree with his findings. However, I believe that the percentage of hoaxed circles was well below 80% in previous years. I very much think the amount of hoaxing that goes on, varies depending on the amount of media interest and thus 'attention' the hoaxers receive from it. I think it's all about egos and one-up-manship amongst the hoaxers.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
Not really. Personally I don't think there will be a difference this year from previous years.
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
My web site at www.cropcircleresearch.com will operate as normal and I will be visiting and updating the online database in the same way I have for previous years. I haven't spoken to my various contacts who are involved in aerial photography, but I'm pretty sure it will be 'research as normal' this year.
You are welcome to link my email address in your findings. I would also appreciate any follow up comments/opinions etc. Thanks
 
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PETER HENDEN, UK
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
No!
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Yes!
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Marginal. Depends on the overall scene.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
No real idea. Think 80% is on high side. Guesstimate 50%.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
No! Just more food for debate!
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted. Don't understand the point.
 
Don't see why should be any different to prior years.
 
Think the only real area of contention is likely to be between those who are sticking to the spirit of the anti-F&M; campaign and those selfish "B's" who will carry on regardless - whether it be hoaxing or inspecting formations - of whatever origination!
 
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SUZANNE TAYLOR
suzanne@mightycompanions.org
WebRadio Show: "Making Sense of These Times"
http://www.mightycompanions.org
http://www.mightycompanions.org/cropcircles
1500 Sunset Plaza Drive
Los Angeles, CA 90069
Phone:(310)652-3440; Toll Free:(888)454-5157
Fax:(310)659-9860

I've rented a place in England mid-June to the end of August, for me to do a regular WebRadio "Report from the Fields," and for William Gazecki, who makes great documentaries ("Waco" was nominated for an Academy Award), to finally do a good one on the phenomenon. But we're watching the news. If researchers stay away, this might be a bad year for those endeavors. In the meantime, at my end we are fascinated waiting to see if there is a phenomenon. If there is a full blown one, we'll know that hoaxing has not accounted for the circles, a claim which makes me sick when you consider how long they've been around, where they appear, and how sophisticated the geometry is, not to mention the beyond the beyond the execution of these gorgeous artworks. If there is no phenomenon, I think it would be because of the disease that the visitors would stop making their contacts -- and perhaps would migrate to another part of the world that wasn't under threat (if there is such a thing). The world would think it's because hoaxing had been prevented that the phenomenon disappeared, but I'd never believe that. I can anticipate another wave of doubt, bigger than Doug and Dave, that then would have to be dealt with by the beleaguered appreciators of this most interesting thing going on on Earth.
How perfect it would be if this year, when researchers and hoaxers alike can't get in the fields, the phenomenon puts on a dazzling show to at last, beyond question reveal itself to the world. I get shivers thinking about this.
 
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PHILIP GOODIER
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
No
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Yes
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Yes
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
40%
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
No, but it will help to do so
 
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DAVE SADLER
http://www.maxpages.com/UPIA
 
I am not a major circle researcher but have been involved with several cases in the North West area and have visited Wiltshire to view the formations also on a number of occasions.
 
I have replied to your mail to give a view from somebody who is not a major player and from an area, that has few occurances. I hope my answers assist you in some way.
 
I conducted a lecture on Saturday 31st March 2001, at the Wrexham Science and Technology Festival at NEWI, concerning a formation in Wrexham in August last year. (More information on the formation can be viewed at the UPIA website, listed at the top of this mail.)
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)?
 
I don't think that the prevention of the visitations will stop myself visiting any circles in the north west area, if approached and given owners permission, I will investigate any formations.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Where now the large number of hoaxed or actual formations are in their hundreds I believe that this will drop, therefore indications of genuine crop circles may increase.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Yes, many "hoaxers" will not want the trouble with fines and authorities, etc.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
98% hoaxed, 2% genuine
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It will assist the genuine circles credability, and help researchers prove to the general public and scientific population that their is a unknown behind genuine formations.
 
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DUDLY ROBERTS USA
 
I don't think it can be denied that the present outbreak of FMD in the UK is going to have some effect on the Crop Circle phenomena, and on the investigation of it. Taking away the tragedy of what is involved to these unfortunate farmers and not denying them the right to be devastated by this scourge, it may certainly be an opportunity for those into Crop Circle Investigations to possibly find out once and for all whether these are of terrestrial or non terrestrial origin.
They may even be bigger!!
 
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MALCOLM ROBINSON
SPI ENGLAND AND BUFORA
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
Yes I won't be going due to the outbreak we must respect the situation
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Should be interesting to find out !!
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
I guess they might do !!
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
99.9%
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It's hard to say until the season is finished
 
Good luck in the above study. As a researcher for SPI England and BUFORA, we must ensure that researchers don't enter into any fields that have been marked off. I would appeal to those circle hoaxers PLEASE don't make this crisis any worse than it already is. This is a spirallling situation which we are trying to control, and loose crop circle cannons will only make the situation worse. STAY AWAY from the fields this year.
 
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DONALD WALDROP
Director, MUFON LA Mutual UFO Network Los Angeles www.mufonla.com
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
Yes
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Yes
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Yes
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
15-20%
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It will help!
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
They certainly should!

After the Crop Circle Panel at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, NV, it became very clear to me that there is a lot of political maneuvering going on among the major crop circle researchers. In my opinion, we all need to cooperate more, leaving personalities out of the mix. Whoever has new information should make it known to all interested parties. We have a genuine phenomenon that deserves mature study.
 
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FREDDY SILVA,
THE CROP CIRCULAR
 
1. (First question missing from email and unable to re-contact Freddy)
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
As they always have. They were here before hoaxers arrived. Remember, a hoax is a forgery, and in order to have forgeries there must be originals.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
No. One shouldn't presume anything until it is researched, felt, measured, etc.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
>From the same period (1998-2000), at least 60%. However I do have reason to believe that during this period a third force was at play. Colin Andrews' '80% hoaxes' might include these because this new force doesn't have the typical fingerprint of the hoax or of the real phenomenon, so his magnetic equipment is unlikely to have registered it.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
There is no connection I am aware of.
 
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ROBERT S DIGBY - BUFORA
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
Yes
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
I still expect formations to appear. I am only aware of one prosecution and so the detection rate of hoaxers is poor. I don't think they expect to get caught. I am not sure there is enough "science" to detect genuine and forgery.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
No, because the ban will not deter the fanatics.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
The 80/20 Pareto principle is certainly a defensible ratio but I would quite expect a figure as high as 95%
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
No, because many hoaxers show no real concern for the damage and problems caused to farmers. Locations might be chosen that are argued to be many miles from any known F&M; outbreak.
 
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AUTUMN DRAKE - USA
 
I wanted to comment about the idea that, now that we may have fewer hoaxed crop circles due to the Foot in Mouth crisis (:-)), we may be able to more successfully discern the meanings of the "real" crop circles.
 
I would like to submit the thought that we are all vessels of the same creative communicating force. Even the guys who thought that they were hoaxing crop circles were still being inspired - without their conscious realization - by the same force which is communicating with us through those circles made by non terran human hands. There should be absolutely no embarrassment necessary if you should discover that a circle which spoke deeply to you was designed and implemented by a couple of guys with some boards. Even if they thought that the whole process was hilarious and that they were making pseudo meaningful symbols, it only means that they themselves didn't know that they were puppets in a master's hands. Haven't we all at one time or another done something which we later realized was filled with significance?
 
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CAROLYN BUCKLEY
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
Yes. If the disease is still active I will not be investigating crop circles or any other phenomena involving venturing into currently restricted areas. I feel strongly about the foot & mouth epidemic, even more so since an outbreak occured on my normal route to work. I am going out of my way to avoid this area, taking a detour down the motorway to eliminate any risk of going even remotely near the farm involved. Cheshire, my home county, is a predominantly rural area, and I have the livelihoods of local farmers (and the associated economical implications) to think of. I also think it grossly irresponsible of others to travel to rural areas. Infection needs to be contained.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
What genuine formations? I don't believe for a minute that any of them are created my anything other than human hands.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
No, if they still appear this year, it indicates the selfishness and gross stupidity of those who cause them. Some people will stop at nothing.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
99.99% - the other .01% I am willing to keep an open mind about!
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It depends who makes the circles. If one irresponsible individual or group couldn't care less about the current crisis, the numbers will not change. If all circles stop, then this would also indicate that one group or individual could be responsible - and has decided notto bother this year due to foot & mouth. However, if many hoaxers are to blame, then one would expect the number of formations to fall proportionally according to how many have a conscience.
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
If only I could afford a private plane!
 
I would strongly urge others to limit all areas of research into anomalies to urban areas until this crisis is over. Keep safe, stay sensible and stay out of the countryside
 
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MICHAEL HESEMANN
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
If indeed nightly cropwatches and the on-site-investigation of new formations is not possible, I will not visit England this year but study the phenomenon from the websites like cropcircleconnector.com.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Why not? Well, of course cropcircles are, as every form of communication, an interactive phenomenon. We might not have as many formations as in the years before, but I think the real circlemakers will use the opportunity to let us know ,once and for all, that THEY are the masters and not some hoaxers. And I hope that the fines for these unscrupulous hoaxers will be ASTRONOMICAL!
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Sure.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
Well, Colin might be right if his figure refers to the last year (although I think 70 % hoaxes is high enough), but if we take the crop circles from 1980-2001 not more than 30-40 % are man-made.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
I hope so.
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
I hope so!
 
Indeed the foot-and-mouth-disease, as horrible as it is, opens the opportunity to a unique experiment. Therefore I hope that the fines for hoaxers will be astronomical and that we finally experience the crop circle phenomenon in its original innocence, without the contamination through the unscrupulous hoaxers.
 
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MARK HAYWOOD
Cosmic Horizons www.cosmichorizons.cjb.net
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
It may do, although I think the area is a haven for paranormal activity not just crop circles. I've seen many odd things in the fields of Wiltshire, and I would probably go down anyway.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Interesting poser. A few friends have commented that if no circles arrive this year then it would prove that hoaxing is the answer. I do not believe this to be the case. Crop circles are obviously designed to attract peoples attentions, if people cannot visit fields and experience the phenomena, they the "real circlemakers" may not waste their energy also.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
People will still enter fields regardless, and so we will still have to watch for hoaxing.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
This is the same mindset of researchers that say that 95% of UFOs are identified. It's a method of trying to be scientifically acceptable.
Unless you receive every UFO report, you can only say that 95% of what I receive, I identify. The same is true for crop circles. Unless you visit every last one of them the statement has no basis in science.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
I don't believe that life will be made any easier. Hoaxers can be a devious lot.
 
6 Will those who fly over the formations - our only source of news in this crisis - kindly inform the rest of us on which websites the pictures and information will be posted.
 
I have just purchased a digital camera for the sole purpose of getting news out quicker. I still hope to fly myself and hope that we still have good coverage over the UK.
 
Although foot and mouth doesn't affect humans, if it affects the circlemakers then we may not get any circles at all. Of course, the media will then say that all circles are man-made and we didn't get any because they didn't want to risk spreading foot and mouth. I say, that they are quite prepared to risk getting caught over the past 20+ years if we believe everything they say. But we must not be downhearted...truth and justice always prevails.....it's just how quickly we get there.
 
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DIANA CLIFT, UK
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
I don't think so
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Yes
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
Yes
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
Probably about 30 to 50%
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
It could be helpful...yes
 
I do suspect it will be a special year. I think there will indeed be fewer formations. I would like everybody who has fixed opinions about the cause of crop circles to make predictions about the phenomenon this year as - so far - most theories seem to have had little predictive value and this is likely to be a decisive year. If the human hoax theory is correct, perhaps the phenomenon will stop!!!
 
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MATTHEW WILLIAMS, CIRCLEMAKER
 
1 Will the disease outbreak prevent you visiting 'croppie' country this year? (The roads will be open but not the footpaths and fields)
 
The foot and muth outbreak if causing the fields to be off limits to everyone for now. However there is talk that the ban to visiting arable land will be lifted soon and so the only places you wont be able to go will be fields with livestock in them. If this happens then I think that researchers and circlemakers alike won't feel guilty for going out into/making circles.
 
I live in croppie country all year round so I will already be here. Visitors to the circles will probably be ignorant of bans and subsequently would probably ignore warnings and advice and go into circles which appear anyhow and risk fines. It is the public who are at more risk of getting caught and fined for this than circlesmakers would be at risk. The reason is clear.... no circlemaker has ever been caught at night whilst making a circle. Its almost an impossibilty to be caught... circlemakers know this fact. So its people who defy the ban and might visit circles by day - when they are easily spotted doing so stand to get pulled in and fined - not circlemakers.
 
Seeing as circlemaking is an illegal act in most cases and the circlemakers are well aware of the criminal charges and fines - would they really care about the legality of it? Probably not. I think the only thing that would stop a circlemaker from making circles would be a moral dilema that they could be spreading foot and mouth by making circles. Whilst the likelyhood of spreading foot and mouth by making a circle is very limited, it is the hundreds or thousands of visitors to a circle thereafter that could present the biggest threat - not the circlemakers. So for this reason some circlemakers may stop in order to limit the risk of sprreading foot and mouththemselves and by the attarction to others to defy bans and visit circles, creating a bigger threat of spreading the disease.
 
2 As high legal fines will presumably curtail the activities of the hoaxers entering the fields, do you think the 'genuine' formations will appear?
 
Genuine circles do appear every year... just they are not the ones the researchers get excited about... so this is almost a pointless question. The emphasis here should be - will researchers this year be able to tell which ones are real for once? I think not. I live in hope.
 
3 If they do appear, do you consider they will have a greater validity because of the ban on humans entering fields?
 
This is a supposition - based on the want for "genuine" circles - based on wishful thinking. If nobody can tell which ones they are, will greater emphasis be placed on what people wrongly believe are "real" - so perhaps what we will see tis year is more researchers arguing with each other over what is real. As we all know, very few researchers will say publically, for the record, which circles they believe toi be real. This is to avoid embarrassment in being shown down the line to be wrong. So with researchers not placing their cards on the table it is hard to see trends in which researchers disagree... but I do get a flavour each year of completely different views on circles.
 
4 One researcher says he has proof that 80 per cent of recent formations have been hoaxes - what percentage do you think are hoaxes?
 
Atleast 95% or higher. Based on my own direct observations. This doesnt mean involvement, simply that I am privy to certain details about human circlemaking.
 
5 Do you think that foot and mouth will literally sort the wheat from the chaff - hoaxers or 'whatever' - when it comes to solving the circle mystery?
 
Absolutely not. Some circlemakers have not responded to my questions about their forthcoming involvement in circles this year. This may be because they haven't made their minds up as to their involvement yet. Perhaps there is now a certain level of distrust towards me from some circlemakers because I have been more open on my circlemaking activities that they like. Some circlemakers believe that the secrets of circlemaking should remain secret and within the groups. I am not advocating full disclosure because this would damage interest in the circles and also destroy valid work which is being done on understnaing paranormal phenomena which manifest in or near man made circles.
 
A flavour of reactions from circlemakers I have spoken to ranges from the following... We will contiunue to make circles - right through to the end of the season, inspite of foot and mouth... We will not make circles until the ban is lifted. There are some circlemakers who havent made up their minds and cannot commit themslves until they have made up their minds.
 
If anything, I think it will be a slower start to the year. Jokingly I supopose that many researchers will believe that this is a message from "aliens" that they dont want to spread Foot and Mouth disease... when infact any sensible person would just regard the lack of circles as a man made effect due to foot and mouth precuations.
 
Some researchers who answered questions feel it is a foregone conclusion that NO circlemakers will be out this year, so that anything that appears must be very genuine. I am sure mostpeople will see the flaw in this type of thinking... but sadly these researchers will continue to preach this type of nonsense to their congreations at crop circle lectures and on radio and tv, when the authorities get bored and let them broadcast their insane views for a good laugh.
 

 

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